On Wednesday’s episode of the Call Her Daddy podcast, Perry explained: "We weren’t really in it from day one – I mean, he was, in a way, because he had just done a huge time of celibacy and he had set intentions and I was fresh out of a relationship and I was just like, I can’t do this anymore. She recalled: "I had a really tough year, and I finally went to Hoffman towards the end of that year that we were separated, and then I got the tools and spoke the same language".
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